TgurlMining - Proof of Concept

[TgurlSara]

The original work i put together in about an hour, have since wich debuged many issues and changed some operational setings...

Does it work?
YES

IS it safe?
Depends how and were you use it.

DO NOT, DO NOT, DO NOT, DO NOT, use it all day every day, it WILL get you baned.

Pre-Run setup... Simulare to RR
-Colors to 0
-Trans. to 255...
-SS erelavante now as mostly all hard coded LOCs are now found by image search
HOWEVER I will work on geting SS of my setup atached

bookmarks
1 Station
2 Roids i want to mine are inside my mineing distance
3 ...


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16 May 2011
-Removed most hard coded mouse clicks, switching to more imagesearch for mouse LOCs
-Should now work no mater were the inventor and items window are located

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19 May 2011
-reselution should be irelavent now, but dont hurt to run in 1000x700.
-Make sure the cargo is open and visable, and as small as you can make it... ALSO if it does not show up as "My Cargo" but some thing like "TgurlSara's Veltors Cargo" undock, close and open the cargo again, then redock... Image search is looking for the text "My Cargo"

[TgurlSara]

Screen Shots

[makjang]

the ss is to small -_-a

[TgurlSara]

the ss is to small -_-a

SO i noticed, ya i had problems uploading the full size SS so i started shrinking them bit by bit till i could upload them...

However, SS are irrelevant at this point... as long as
1) your cargo is open, visible and is small as it can be.
2) the Items window is open and visible when your docked
3) Bookmarks are set right
4) when you warp in to the field there is roids you want to mine with in the lasers distance

as i stated above the recent changes make it so it don't mater were the items, cargo are located as it searches for the pix and then grabs the LOC off were it found the pix.. and i am currently working on adding in a randomness to the LOC grabs.

[Trigen]

Upload to imageshack.

[tehgeek]

... and save the files as .jpg, much smaller then bmp in terms of filesize

[Trigen]

Anyone feeling like testing this??? To make sure. Need a second opinion.

[dickhead325]

Heya, thx for putting this up Tgirl :) it doesnt really seem to work for me though. just idles in a belt..

[CrazyCabbage]

Hey tgurl, just popping by to say i'm glad to see you back!

[TgurlSara]

Hey Cabbage, have to say nice to be back...

OK so i have had a few bug complaints...

Dickhead- when you start up you should be inside a station, have your Items and Cargo open and visible, cargo should be as small as you can make it, i did have a version up that i had a typo for the laser activation, but it should be fixed... let me know if that helps correct it for you, if not i can mod a version and send it to you to see where it is freezing

tehgeek- good to know, i did not think bout file types, but ya your right jpg are normally smaller... DUH Blondie moment

I been doing some testing with this one, running a few hours a day, just to see if things get detected to point of ban...

Also it would help if you encounter a bug you could give me a bit more information... like version number... well release date and time if applicable.. and what it is doing or not doing... as well as SS would be greatly helpful in finding and fixing bugs, OH YA in SS make sure to black out any identifying stuff, toon name, system name and such

[gandalf39]

I had to play with this a while to get it going, like making sure you have big buttons and using the map to get a black background

[tehgeek]

isnt having the map open one of the ways CCP was able to find RR users? having the map open, i think, is bad.

P.S. tgurl, instead of doing a direct pixel search of an area (I know, most things are transparent, so their color is always different), do a search for a range instead ;)
This is how I have my own personal macro doing warp detection, at 5 pixel locations, all doing simple (If COLOR > VALUE1 & COLOR < VALUE2) matching.

[Platinumman]

had a go with it and it just undocks, not much else, am i doing something wrong????

[TgurlSara]

Oh ya forgot bout the background... i just zoom all the way out... no need for starmap...

HOWEVER my trial account was baned some time between the patch and now...

Not sure if it is due to boting or what as i have not received any mail telling me why it was banned, but i went to log in and is said wrong password, then i go to reset password and gave it login and email, it jumps back with account baned... HAHA

SO not only are they baning quickly but now they are not even telling you why they are banning you. prety F'ed up if you ask me...

In my instance they might be watching my IP address though.

[Platinumman]

change ya ip and see if they are still on ya case

[iammadeofwin]

Thusly its not just the starmap they would be using.




Oh ya forgot bout the background... i just zoom all the way out... no need for starmap...

HOWEVER my trial account was baned some time between the patch and now...

Not sure if it is due to boting or what as i have not received any mail telling me why it was banned, but i went to log in and is said wrong password, then i go to reset password and gave it login and email, it jumps back with account baned... HAHA

SO not only are they baning quickly but now they are not even telling you why they are banning you. prety F'ed up if you ask me...

In my instance they might be watching my IP address though.

[TgurlSara]

change ya ip and see if they are still on ya case

Ya I'm working on getting a different set of hardware/software/internet connection, to completely remove the possibility of some thing on my local set up is being tracked... ill do some tinkering and post my results.

Also i only ran it 4-6 hours at a time, and not every day more like about every other day or 2 out of 3 days...

Interesting thing is it happened very quickly after posting it up on PD... even thought i had been running some thing similar on a different account be for and it has no ban... just saying.

[tehgeek]

our luck they are watching the forums and downloading everything, debugging it asap to ban anyone who mite be using it. I wouldn't doubt it honestly

[MOFD]

our luck they are watching the forums and downloading everything, debugging it asap to ban anyone who mite be using it. I wouldn't doubt it honestly

I would have to agree seeing how quickly it happened.

[Trigen]

I understand they get pissed about losing money because we can pay with ingame money, but if everything is cheap in the community, wouldn't people be more willing to buy money/plex from CCP because it would get them a lot ingame....inflation...

[IceHound]

I understand they get pissed about losing money because we can pay with ingame money, but if everything is cheap in the community, wouldn't people be more willing to buy money/plex from CCP because it would get them a lot ingame....inflation...

but they aren't losing money. the plex we buy in game was bought by someone else from them, for real money.

[Pluckyduck]

but they aren't losing money. the plex we buy in game was bought by someone else from them, for real money.

it cost them for you to run the bots, do you remember the chart before the unholy rage? CPU usages was so high and then after that the chart showed it was way lower. It may not cost plex money but still cost equipment and power money.

PD

[Trigen]

I forgot......so really....there is no real difference for botting affecting Eve on a money level except for PVP status. Only way botting would kill eve is if we funded Goon to take over the entire game.

[5733J0]

Whatever way you look at it, be it bot or real player, each account has to pay for eve, and the fact that most eve botters run many more accounts than real players shows that the botters are in fact making more money for CCP than the "real players". So don't for one second think that the reason that CCP are banning botters is due to their bottom line or cpu usage or anything along those lines, the reason they are banning botters is due to whiney little -censored-. End of.

[Arrogantz]

This WILL get you banned 100%. Sooner or later.You really shouldnt use ANY Macro whatever at the Time.
Its your Risk but i cant really suggest you using this ^^

[Trigen]

This WILL get you banned 100%. Sooner or later.You really shouldnt use ANY Macro whatever at the Time.
Its your Risk but i cant really suggest you using this ^^

Then what do we use?

[DannyDeranged]

Something you've written yourself after researching how to beat most pattern analysis.

[Manwholoves]

we have more spies here than NC

[Username]

Something you've written yourself after researching how to beat most pattern analysis.

^ That's truely the safest option ATM, those without the ability to make their own macro should probably reduce the amount of accounts they have temporarily and try to make ends meet "Normally" until something secure/safe can be devised.


we have more spies here than NC

;)

[Xuri]

it cost them for you to run the bots, do you remember the chart before the unholy rage? CPU usages was so high and then after that the chart showed it was way lower. It may not cost plex money but still cost equipment and power money.

PD

Bots use the same amount of CPU as any other player. Heck, players probably use more. Most bots are focused, don't talk in chat, click a thousand times and then go oops, get their ships blown up in combat, cry on the forums.

Bottom line, if 23/7 operations of any character costs more than $15 per month, CCP needs to rethink their programming.

[Trigen]

^ That's truely the safest option ATM, those without the ability to make their own macro should probably reduce the amount of accounts they have temporarily and try to make ends meet "Normally" until something secure/safe can be devised.



;)


Only ever had 1 account, and I have been mining manually for 2 weeks. Luckily I still have a 2 month supply to buy plex if it doesn't go up anymore...

[anonim]

hello. I have a little problem. bot only Undock my ship and nothing else does. please help

[anonim]

if anyone can help me?

[LiftedArms]

if anyone can help me?

I wouldn't use this if I were you, man, but if you want to, you should try some of the things that people have done earlier in the thread.

What have you done so far?

[userxvi]

Testing out your program and its kinda working, but needs some tweaking.
Gave it a short run just to see how things work and it simply didn't warp me to the desired location.

What I would like to see:

---Slightly shorter interval times, maybe even a random timer and a few drone support to give the most basic anti detect support.

---Endorsement to have it run Sandboxed (another form of anti detection)

---A short setup tutorial on "Properly setup way points" short simple works perfect.

---Some form of control over the mining intervals details etc, text based, pretty much anything will do.

Cool skillz,

[TgurlSara]

First of all let me reiterate, I was banned again, and i am 90% sure it was after publicly releasing my code here....

Next, YES this one i posted last is kinda hinkie... it can and does do one thing... "Prove the concept" that a basic mining bot can be made in less then a day.

I would suggest NOT using this one for any type of ISK ventures, BUT instead, use it as a learning tool... see how i did my work, and make one of your own... that is IMHO the best safest way to get a stable bot that is less likely to get you banned...

My reasoning for my opinion... I used this bot for about a week, no issues... then about 24-48 hours after i posted it here... i get a bann....
Add to this, I have since witch been using a BOT... and have been using it with no issues since my prior post "05-21-2011 10:01 AM" not one single ban on any of my many accounts.

Also as i stated before the DD LOCKOUT PROJECT... the fact that CCP says there 3rd party scanner software will not go outside the EVE.exe is 110% BS... it can and most likely dose, scan any and all active programs... let me put it this way... how could a scanner software be able to detect any thing if it dose not scan any thing but there own exe file, short answer, IT CAN NOT.. if it is to detect bot activities, then at some point it WILL go outside the eve.exe

So the question you need to ask is not "how do i make my bot undetectable" the question should be "how do i stop there software from scanning" because believe me, IT IS SCANNING! and yes there are ways of blocking it from seeing some things... and no they can not ban you for it, seeming as they are the ones that said it wont leave there "EVE BOX" because if they do ban you for stopping there scanner from scanning outside there EXE then they have MASS LAW suit for intentionally invading your privacy...

and to answer a few other questions i have been getting ALOT....

YES i do still run a bot
YES i still buy/sell ISK (only to trusted clients, if you have not bought or sold with me in the last 30 days then NO you are not on my client list)

NO i wont buy your ISK
NO i wont sell you ISK i have
NO i am not planing to post any of my work

Now this might change in the future, BUT as of now, until i have posted otherwise, i have a list of trusted clients and it does me good... and the only way im willing to add you to my list of trusted clients is if you come to Las Vegas and talk to me FACE TO FACE.

[Trigen]

So your saying CCP is illegally scanning our computers??

[civan]

Nah, tgurl just got banned and is a bit upset. I have been using a lot of public hacks without getting banned, just like a half of people here. I will check whether exefile calls anything dodgy like EnumProcesses over the weekend.

[Username]

Also as i stated before the DD LOCKOUT PROJECT... the fact that CCP says there 3rd party scanner software will not go outside the EVE.exe is 110% BS... it can and most likely dose, scan any and all active programs... let me put it this way... how could a scanner software be able to detect any thing if it dose not scan any thing but there own exe file, short answer, IT CAN NOT.. if it is to detect bot activities, then at some point it WILL go outside the eve.exe


Until it's specifically stated in the EULA (As warden (Blizzard anti-cheat) is) They can not even peek into your stuff without getting a 10 ton vehicle rammed up their collective behinds...

So... has anyone read the EULA recently? Unless you've read the totality of the EULA and TOS you're in no position to make accusations. Once you've read the whole thing, (To figure out what they can and can not do) Then, if you have proof of some kind of disorderly conduct feel free to post up such proof, and accuse whom-ever you see fit.

Until you've taken those steps any accusations you may or may not make has no grounds or purpose and is nothing more than an opinion and an un-founded one at that; and frankly it's childish to accuse with no proof what so ever, sounds to me like either your bot was primitive and had a deadly obvious pattern to it or CCP downloaded your bot, used it, and matched the resulting pattern with the pattern left by your macro characters.

This may sound overly dramatic but people have gotten into a whole lot of trouble in the past for making unfounded accusations just like the one you made.

On a related note did anyone read the privacy policy for the Eve-o forums? Damn that's some rough shit... basically if anything said on the forums eventually leads in any way to anything at all (Even if it was completely unrelated to Eve) they can claim the rights to it.... they basically "Own" everything you post on the forums regardless of who's idea it was or if the "Idea" belonged to you in the first place... O_o Anyways it's some scary shit....

[IceHound]

So... has anyone read the EULA recently?


yup, just did. the ONLY mention in the eula about scanning your computer is this one:

section 10, paragraph D

Software Updates
CCP may from time to time update or otherwise modify the Software electronically. You hereby grant CCP permission to: (i) extract hardware system profile data from your computer; (ii) extract information from your computer's file directories pertaining to the Game and your ability to access the System; (iii) download to your computer content and Game files and any data related to the operation of the Game. The foregoing applies to any computer from which you log into the System using your Account.

what this means, is they can scan your computer to see what HARDWARE you have. can make a difference as to whether your machine can even run the game.
they can ONLY look at the file directories that are related to the game. if is isn't in an eve created directory, they cant/wont look at it. and, of course, they can download game content to your machine.


Until it's specifically stated in the EULA (As warden (Blizzard anti-cheat) is) They can not even peek into your stuff without getting a 10 ton vehicle rammed up their collective behinds...


regarding this, here is the applicable section from the EULA:

section 5

AMENDMENTS TO EULA
CCP may, in its sole discretion, amend the EULA from time to time. If the EULA is amended, you will be asked to review the amended EULA when you log into your Account, and to indicate and confirm your acceptance of the amended EULA by clicking the "ACCEPT" and/or "CONFIRMED" buttons.

this means if anything in the eula changes, YOU WILL BE FORCED TO RE-ACCEPT THE EULA.




On a related note did anyone read the privacy policy for the Eve-o forums? Damn that's some rough shit... basically if anything said on the forums eventually leads in any way to anything at all (Even if it was completely unrelated to Eve) they can claim the rights to it.... they basically "Own" everything you post on the forums regardless of who's idea it was or if the "Idea" belonged to you in the first place... O_o Anyways it's some scary shit....

yeah... its not just for the forums. it includes anything you say, type, or whatever while in-game also. basically covers ANYTHING you do/say on ANY form of CCP media.

[Trigen]

basically covers ANYTHING you do/say on ANY form of CCP media.

You mean CCCP.

[IceHound]

potato, potato...

[Username]

yup, just did. the ONLY mention in the eula about scanning your computer is this one:
section 5

AMENDMENTS TO EULA
CCP may, in its sole discretion, amend the EULA from time to time. If the EULA is amended, you will be asked to review the amended EULA when you log into your Account, and to indicate and confirm your acceptance of the amended EULA by clicking the "ACCEPT" and/or "CONFIRMED" buttons.

this means if anything in the eula changes, YOU WILL BE FORCED TO RE-ACCEPT THE EULA.

yeah... its not just for the forums. it includes anything you say, type, or whatever while in-game also. basically covers ANYTHING you do/say on ANY form of CCP media.

Yep, that's in pretty much all EULAs, which is why I said "Until" because we all know it's gunna eventually happen ;'( But if they do naughty things with our computers before amending the EULA though were back to 10 ton vehicles and dark places....

And yeah, scarey shit! O.o

[Notmyeveusername]

Is it only i who doing something wrong or is it Incarna what broke the bot?